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en cuanto algun vigilante español le pegue un tiro a algun moreno, creo que se va a celebrar el juicio del año y se le va a ver el plumero a nuestra maquinaria legal cuando un tribunal internacional tenga que atender la demanda desde algun bufete de esos que colaboran también en las negociaciones de los rescates y que reciben dinero de esa actividad y soliciten el enjuiciamiento en contra del vigilante con imprevisibles resultados legales.
Lo más normal es que no pase nada. A los somalíes les da bastante igual tener bajas. Ahora bien, si se enteran que el causante es español, cambia la cosa .... :mrgreen: , aquí pedirían 4 años de prisión para el vigilante y una indemnización de 130.000 eur por haber matado a un pescador por imprudencia grave.
Reclamación que no prosperaría a menos que la muerte no cumpliera con los requisitos de legítima defensa. En principio el ROE de SEGUR es el más "light" de los que conozco, por lo que no debería haber problemas.
En cuanto a la responsabilidad de posibles daños y perjuicios sería DIRECTA Y SOLIDARIA de SEGUR IBERICA y de ESPAÑA, por ser los responsables de los vigilantes conjuntamente. El Estado no se podría "escaquear", ya que SEGUR IBERICA depende del Estado para prestar el servicio.
Si el incidente ocurriera en aguas jurisdiccionales de algún país (Somalia, Seychelles, Madagascar etc..) , entonces nos debemos remitir a las leyes penales y de policía del país en cuestión
En cuanto a "españoles por el mundo" en los contratos o ROE siempre se especifican las responsabilidades, que cubren los seguros y que cubre el Estado de la nacionalidad del personal y el Estado donde se realiza el servicio.
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Me parece una suposicion muy rebuscada:

¿Quien va a denunciar al VS, los piratas, el capitán del atunero, algún pescador........?

Primero lo tendrán que demostrar, y no creo que nadie vaya a comprobar si le ha dado, si le ha herido o si le ha dejado seco, y por parte de sus compañeros (del difunto pirata), menos aún, ¿van a coger la matricula para denunciarles ante la "Op. Atalanta" :mrgreen: ?

Si un VS se carga a un moreno, fijo que nadie se va a enterar, a "la Mila" la pilla muy lejos :lol:

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Más sobre Raymond Davis, la fuente es prensa iraní (Press TV):
Documents show Raymond Davis, an American who killed two Pakistanis in Lahore in January, had links with CIA's espionage and sabotage plans in the Asian country.

“The documents, photographs and the evidence that has come out from Davis' sofa almost confirms his links with Taliban terrorism…the attacks on ISI and the security establishment as well as the drone attacks,” Pakistani defense analyst and security consultant Zaid Hamid said in an interview with Press TV's US Desk on Saturday.

Hamid added that there is evidence confirming Davis has been a US undercover operative in Pakistan.

“With this kind of evidence the issue is not just the assassination of those two boys on the streets of Lahore but it is an indication of a much larger network of CIA espionage and sabotage inside Pakistan,” he said.

Earlier, US President Barack Obama urged Pakistan to free the US official saying he enjoys diplomatic immunity under the Vienna Convention.

However, under public pressure, Lahore High Court adjourned a decision on whether Davis had diplomatic immunity.

The court gave the foreign ministry more time to answer on whether full diplomatic status was held by Davis, who has been remanded in custody since his arrest following the incident on January 27.

Pakistani police have pressed charges of espionage against Davis, saying he is an employee of the notorious US security firm Xe/Blackwater, working in Pakistan under the cover of the so-called war on terror.
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¿Quien va a denunciar al VS, los piratas, el capitán del atunero, algún pescador........?
Hola KUE,

La denuncia se interpondría ante la AN por los herederos del "pescador"; aportando como prueba testificales o grabaciones de video o conversaciones de los thuraya... que se yo....era sólo la respuesta una suposición...pero cosas más raras han entrado en la AN.
Y siempre que se trate de un pequeño asalto. Si andan con buques más grandes no tienen defensa posible.

SEGUR IBERICA no lo hace, pero algunas empresas de seguridad intentan grabar los intentos de secuestro para precisamente descargar responsabilidades
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Disculpar pero creo que en este tema solo deberiamos hablar de Xe, para lo que planteais supongo que Seguridad Maritima ¿no?
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Davis no era agente de la CIA, es un contratista de XPG asignado a una unidad de la CIA de la que se acaba de publicar el nombre, Global Response Staff, vamos... lo que vienen siendo equipos de seguridad y de evacuación/QRF. Me da a mí que es posible que Davis estuviera haciendo la avanzada antes de una reunión entre el agente de inteligencia al que protegía y un informador en una reunión preparada como emboscada, y al tomarlo por el agente le atacaron, pero él se los cargó primero.


Ojo a estas noticias:

http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/16/davis-is ... judge.html
By Khalid Hasnain | DAWN

LAHORE: The investigation wing of the Lytton Road police and prosecution officials submitted on Tuesday a double-murder challan (preliminary police report) against US national Raymond Davis to the court of Lahore District and Sessions Judge (DSJ) Abdul Waheed Khan.

After consulting some additional district and sessions judges, the DSJ marked the case to the court of ADSJ Mohammad Youssuf Aujla.

An official said police had formally charged Davis under Section 302, declaring him as killer of Faizan and Faheem at Qartaba Chowk in Mozang on Jan 27.

He said the home department had issued a notification to conduct the trial in jail because of security concerns.

According to the police report, Lytton Road SHO Atif Meraj recovered a belt, a pistol pouch, a handbag, two purses, five cellphones, Pakistani and foreign currency and two National Identity Cards from the murdered youths.

Davis, according to witnesses, first opened fire on Faizan and Fahim from his car and then shot them from the back while they were fleeing.

"The police, however, captured Davis while he was trying to flee in his car and recovered a 9mm pistol with five magazines, 75 bullets, a passport, a long-range wireless set, a global positioning system (GPS) with charger, two cellphones, a telescope, infrared headlight, camera, torch, survival kit, memory cards, packed `niswar', local and US currency, ATM cards, a PIA ticket, blank cheques etc."

Davis claimed during investigation that the men wanted to rob him and he had killed them in self-defence. After killing Faizan and Fahim, Davis also photographed them and called the US consulate to send someone to help him.

Responding to the phone call, a vehicle (Land Cruiser) carrying some persons reached the spot and crushed to death another man, Ibadur Rehman.

According to the challan, Davis's claim of having acted in self-defence couldn't be proved because he had killed the men while they were running away and they had no bullet loaded in their pistol.

"Not a single eyewitness saw the murdered youths trying to loot the accused at gunpoint," it said, adding that the accused didn't cooperate with the investigators and refused to give any statement on the instructions of the US consulate in Lahore.

"Davis has been proved to be guilty and be tried under the murder charges," the investigators said.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/fe ... blackwater
US officials have provided fresh details about at the centre of a diplomatic stand-off in Pakistan, including confirmation that he had worked for the private security contractor Xe, formerly known as Blackwater. They also disclosed for the first time that he had been providing security for a CIA team tracking militants.

Davis was attached to the CIA's Global Response Staff, whose duties include protecting case officers when they meet with sources. He was familiarising himself with a sensitive area of Lahore on the day he shot dead two Pakistanis.

The New York Times, Washington Post, Associated Press and other media outlets reported for the first time that Davis is a CIA employee. They said they had been aware of his status but kept it under wraps at the request of US officials who said they feared for his safety if involvement with the spy agency was to come out. The officials claimed that he is at risk in the prison in Lahore. The officials released them from their obligation after the Guardian on Sunday reported that Davis was a CIA agent.

Davis shot dead two Pakistanis in Lahore last month who he says he been trying to rob him. A third Pakistani man was killed by a car driven by Americans apparently on their way to rescue Davis.

Confirmation that he worked for Xe could prove even more problematic than working for the CIA, given the extent of hatred towards Blackwater, whose staff have gained a reputation in Pakistan as trigger-happy. For Pakistanis the word "Blackwater" has become a byword for covert American operations targeting the country's nuclear capability. Newspaper reports have been filled with lurid reports of lawless operatives roaming the country.

US officials have reiterated their concern about Lahore's Kot Lakhpat jail where Davis is being held, saying he had been moved to a separate section of the prison, that the guards' guns had been taken away from him for fear they might kill him, and that detainees had been previously killed by guards. They are also concerned about protesters storming the prison or that he might be poisoned, and that dogs were being used to taste or smell the food for poison.

However, the authorities in Pakistan stressed the stringent measures they have put in place to protect Davis in Kot Lakhpat following angry public rallies in which his effigy was burned and threats from extremist clerics.

Surveillance cameras are trained on his cell in an isolation wing, his guards have been disarmed, and a ring of paramilitary troops are posted outside. About 25 jihadi prisoners have been transferred to other facilities.

The revelations about Davis will complicate further the impasse between the US and Pakistan. Washington says he has diplomatic immunity and should be released but the Pakistan government is in a bind, facing the danger of a public backlash if it complies.

Until Sunday, the US had said Davis was a diplomat, doing technical and administrative work at the embassy. It says that because he has diplomatic immunity, he should be released immediately.

The Pakistani prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani, told parliament on Monday he would safeguard the country's "sovereignty and dignity" as it dealt to resolve the diplomatic impasse with the US. "We are firmly resolved to adopt a course that accords with the dictates of justice and the rule of law. My government will not compromise on Pakistan's sovereignty and dignity," said Gilani.

The CIA declined to comment but other US officials said Davis had been working from a safe house in Lahore and had been carrying out scouting and other reconnaissance mission for a task force of case officers and surveillance experts.

The Obama administration is exerting fierce pressure on Pakistan to release Davis. But President Asif Ali Zardari's government, faced with a wave of public outrage, has prevaricated on the issue, and says it cannot decide on immunity issue until 14 March. For many Pakistanis the case has come to represent their difficult relationship with the US, in which multibillion dollar aid packages are mingled with covert activities targeting Islamist extremists. Davis is currently on Pakistan's "exit control list", meaning he cannot leave the country without permission. But the two men who came to his rescue in a jeep that knocked over and killed a motorcyclist are believed to have already fled the country. Davis claimed to be acting in self-defence, firing on a pair of suspected robbers. But eyebrows were raised when it emerged that he shot the men 10 times, one as he fled the scene.

Pakistani prosecutors say Davis used excessive force and have charged him with two counts of murder and one of illegal possession of a Glock 9mm pistol. There have also been claims that the dead men were working for the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency, with orders to follow Davis.

The military spy agency cooperates with the CIA in its tribal belt drone programme, but resents US intelligence collection elsewhere in the country. In spite of the lurid conspiracy tales in Pakistan about Blackwater, US officials say that in reality Blackwater has had two major contracts in Pakistan - loading missiles onto CIA drones at the secret Shamsi airbase in Balochistan, and supervising the construction of a police training facility in Peshawar. The Davis furore has not, however, stopped the controversial drone strike programme. News emerged of a fresh attack on a militant target in South Waziristan, the first in nearly one month. Pakistani intelligence officials told AP that foreigners were among the dead including three people from Turkmenistan and two Arabs.

Rocky relations

The CIA and Pakistan's ISI have long had a rocky relationship. It started in the 1980s jihad, when the ISI funnelled billions of dollars in CIA-funded weapons to anti-Soviet rebels in Afghanistan.

But the two fell out in 2001 over CIA accusations that the ISI was playing a "double game" – attacking some Islamist militants while secretly supporting others.

In August 2008 the CIA deputy chief, Stephen Kappes, flew to Islamabad with evidence suggesting the ISI plotted the attack on the Indian embassy in Kabul that killed 54 people. The ISI, in turn, complained that the US came with unrealistic expectations and an aggressive attitude.

Yet at the same time the agencies co-operated closely, mostly on the CIA drone campaign against al-Qaida militants along the Afghan border.

In 2009 the ISI praised the CIA for killing the Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud. But recently things soured again. Last December the CIA station chief was forced to quit Pakistan after being publicly identified (US officials blamed an ISI leak); while Pakistani spies were angered that their chief, General Shuja Pasha, was named in a US lawsuit brought in a New York court by victims of the 2008 Mumbai attacks.
Me encanta cuando el foro se adelanta dos años a los medios en temas como las actividades de los contratistas en apoyo de los servicios de inteligencia o la existencia y los contratos que ejecuta SPG/XPG para la CIA en Pakistán :wink:
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kapy-ranger- escribió:Muy interesante toda esta movida del Sr Raymond... se me ocurrre leyendo sobre este caso lo siguiente para debatir:
Imaginemos por un momento que en vez de ser como en este incidente, el Sr Raymond quien ha matado a estos dos paquistanies, es un tipo español ,que tiene un contrato de PSD con digamos G4S (por poner un ejemplo de empresa donde hay algun español en esas tierras) y que ha matado por error a estos tipos alegando defensa propia... ¿Que se apuestan vds a que acaba en la carcel, el juicio lo pierde y con un poco de mala suerte finalmente se le podria condenar a muerte mientras que desde España nadie mueve un solo dedo para sacarlo de allí?
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Bueno, como presuntamente soy el ejemplo solo comentar un par de cosillas:

1-No creo que el Sr Raymond los matase por error.
2-Si aceptas este tipo de trabajo sabes a lo que te expones, cárcel o muerte. Ni más ni menos. El tener un gobierno que te apoye en mayor o menor medida es un extra, pero nunca puedes contar con ello. A algunos os sorprendería (otros no :wink: ) saber la cantidad de ciudadanos americanos que se están pudriendo en cárceles de Kagadastán o la República Popular de Chim-Póm Shakabó.
El caso de Raymond es particular, no la norma general.
PD: Ares, bonita bandera, a ver si me llega la mía :D

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Continuen con su tema señores, y perdonen la interrupción.
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Más de lo mismo Loopster:

-Además de BW y la CIA, podía haber equipos del JSOC en el mismo operativo. ¿Veremos algún día esto en nuestra zona de actuación? ¿En el Magreb? CNI - Protección Privada - y OE's trabajando conjuntamente.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/world ... &ref=world
The American arrested in Pakistan after shooting two men at a crowded traffic stop was part of a covert, C.I.A.-led team collecting intelligence and conducting surveillance on militant groups deep inside the country, according to American government officials.

Working from a safe house in the eastern city of Lahore, the detained American contractor, Raymond A. Davis, a retired Special Forces soldier, carried out scouting and other reconnaissance missions as a security officer for the Central Intelligence Agency case officers and technical experts doing the operations, the officials said.

Mr. Davis’s arrest and detention last month, which came after what American officials have described as a botched robbery attempt, have inadvertently pulled back the curtain on a web of covert American operations inside Pakistan, part of a secret war run by the C.I.A.

The episode has exacerbated already frayed relations between the American intelligence agency and its Pakistani counterpart, created a political dilemma for the weak, pro-American Pakistani government, and further threatened the stability of the country, which has the world’s fastest growing nuclear arsenal.

Without describing Mr. Davis’s mission or intelligence affiliation, President Obama last week made a public plea for his release. Meanwhile, there have been a flurry of private phone calls to Pakistan from Leon E. Panetta, the C.I.A. director, and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, all intended to persuade the Pakistanis to release the secret operative.

Mr. Davis has worked for years as a C.I.A. contractor, including time at Blackwater Worldwide, the private security firm (now called Xe) that Pakistanis have long viewed as symbolizing a culture of American gun-slinging overseas.

The New York Times had agreed to temporarily withhold information about Mr. Davis’s ties to the agency at the request of the Obama administration, which argued that disclosure of his specific job would put his life at risk. Several foreign news organizations have disclosed some aspects of Mr. Davis’s work with the C.I.A.

On Monday, American officials lifted their request to withhold publication. George Little, a C.I.A. spokesman, declined to comment specifically on the Davis matter, but said in a statement: “Our security personnel around the world act in a support role providing security for American officials. They do not conduct foreign intelligence collection or covert operations.”

Since the United States is not at war in Pakistan, the American military is largely restricted from operating in the country. So the Central Intelligence Agency has taken on an expanded role, operating armed drones that kill militants inside the country and running covert operations, sometimes without the knowledge of the Pakistanis.

Several American and Pakistani officials said that the C.I.A. team with which Mr. Davis worked in Lahore was tasked with tracking the movements of various Pakistani militant groups, including Lashkar-e-Taiba, a particularly violent group that Pakistan uses as a proxy force against India but that the United States considers a threat to allied troops in Afghanistan. For the Pakistanis, such spying inside their country is an extremely delicate issue, particularly since Lashkar has longstanding ties to Pakistan’s intelligence service, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI.

Still, American and Pakistani officials use Lahore as a base of operations to investigate the militant groups and their madrasas in the surrounding area.

The officials gave various accounts of the makeup of the covert team and of Mr. Davis, who at the time of his arrest was carrying a Glock pistol, a long-range wireless set, a small telescope and a headlamp. An American and a Pakistani official said in interviews that operatives from the Pentagon’s Joint Special Operations Command had been assigned to the group to help with the surveillance missions. Other American officials, however, said that no military personnel were involved with the team.

Special operations troops routinely work with the C.I.A. in Pakistan. Among other things, they helped the agency pinpoint the location of Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, the deputy Taliban commander who was arrested in January 2010 in Karachi.

Even before the arrest of Mr. Davis, his C.I.A. affiliation was known to Pakistani authorities, who keep close tabs on the movements of Americans. His visa, presented to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in late 2009, describes his job as a “regional affairs officer,” a common job description for officials working with the agency.

According to that application, Mr. Davis carried an American diplomatic passport and was listed as “administrative and technical staff,” a category that typically grants diplomatic immunity to its holder.

American officials said that with Pakistan’s government trying to clamp down on the increasing flow of Central Intelligence Agency officers and contractors trying to gain entry to Pakistan, more of these operatives have been granted “cover” as embassy employees and given diplomatic passports.[b/]

As Mr. Davis is held in a jail cell in Lahore — the subject of an international dispute at the highest levels — new details are emerging of what happened in a dramatic daytime scene on the streets of central Lahore, a sprawling city, on Jan. 27.

By the American account, Mr. Davis was driving alone in an impoverished area rarely visited by foreigners, and stopped his car at a crowded intersection. Two Pakistani men brandishing weapons hopped off motorcycles and approached. Mr. Davis killed them with the Glock, an act American officials insisted was in self-defense against armed robbers.

But on Sunday, the text of the Lahore Police Department’s crime report was published in English by a prominent daily newspaper, The Daily Times, and it offered a somewhat different account.

It is based in part on the version of events Mr. Davis gave Pakistani authorities, and it seems to raise doubts about his claim that the shootings were in self-defense.


According to that report, Mr. Davis told the police that after shooting the two men, he stepped out of the car to take photographs of one of them, then called the United States Consulate in Lahore for help.

But the report also said that the victims were shot several times in the back, a detail that some Pakistani officials say proves the killings were murder. By this account, Mr. Davis fired at the men through his windshield, then stepped out of the car and continued firing. The report said that Mr. Davis then got back in his car and “managed to escape,” but that the police gave chase and “overpowered” him at a traffic circle a short distance away.

In a bizarre twist that has further infuriated the Pakistanis, a third man was killed when an unmarked Toyota Land Cruiser, racing to Mr. Davis’s rescue, drove the wrong way down a one-way street and ran over a motorcyclist. As the Land Cruiser drove “recklessly” back to the consulate, the report said, items fell out of the vehicle, including 100 bullets, a black mask and a piece of cloth with the American flag.

Pakistani officials have demanded that the Americans in the S.U.V. be turned over to local authorities, but American officials say they have already left the country.

Mr. Davis and the other Americans were heavily armed and carried sophisticated equipment, the report said.

The Pakistani Foreign Office, generally considered to work under the guidance of the ISI, has declined to grant Mr. Davis what it calls the “blanket immunity” from prosecution that diplomats enjoy. In a setback for Washington, the Lahore High Court last week gave the Pakistani government until March 14 to decide on Mr. Davis’s immunity.

The pro-American government led by President Asif Ali Zardari, fearful for its survival in the face of a surge of anti-American sentiment, has resisted strenuous pressure from the Obama administration to release Mr. Davis to the United States. Some militant and religious groups have demanded that Mr. Davis be tried in the Pakistani courts and hanged.

Relations between the two spy agencies were tense even before the episode on the streets of Lahore. In December, the C.I.A.’s top clandestine officer in Pakistan hurriedly left the country after his identity was revealed. Some inside the agency believe that ISI operatives were behind the disclosure — retribution for the head of the ISI, Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha, being named in a New York City lawsuit filed in connection with the 2008 terror attack in Mumbai, in which members of his agency are believed to have played a role. ISI officials denied that was the case.

One senior Pakistani official close to the ISI said Pakistani spies were particularly infuriated over the Davis episode because it was such a public spectacle. Besides the three Pakistanis who were killed, the widow of one of the victims committed suicide by swallowing rat poison.

Moreover, the official said, the case was embarrassing for the ISI for its flagrancy, revealing how much freedom American spies have to roam around the country.

“We all know the spy-versus-spy games, we all know it works in the shadows,” the official said, “but you don’t get caught, and you don’t get caught committing murders.”

Mr. Davis, burly at 36, appears to have arrived in Pakistan in late 2009 or early 2010. American officials said he operated as part of the Central Intelligence Agency’s Global Response Staff in various parts of the country, including Lahore and Peshawar.

Documents released by Pakistan’s Foreign Office showed that Mr. Davis was paid $200,000 a year, including travel expenses and insurance.

He is a native of rural southwest Virginia, described by those who know him as an unlikely figure to be at the center of international intrigue.

He grew up in Big Stone Gap, a small town named after the gap in the mountains where the Powell River emerges.

The youngest of three children, Mr. Davis enlisted in the military after graduating from Powell Valley High School in 1993.

“I guess about any man’s dream is to serve his country,” his sister Michelle Wade said.

Shrugging off the portrait of him as an international spy comfortable with a Glock, Ms. Wade said: “He would always walk away from a fight. That’s just who he is.”

His high school friends remember him as good-natured, athletic, respectful. He was also a protector, they said, the type who stood up for the underdog.

“Friends with everyone, just a salt of the earth person,” said Jennifer Boring, who graduated from high school with Mr. Davis.

Mr. Davis served in the infantry in Europe — including a short tour as a peacekeeper in Macedonia — before joining the Third Special Forces Group in 1998, where he remained until he left the Army in 2003. The Army Special Forces — known as the Green Berets — are an elite group trained in weapons and foreign languages and cultures.

It is unclear when Mr. Davis began working for the C.I.A., but American officials said that in recent years he worked for the spy agency as a Blackwater contractor and later founded his own small company, Hyperion Protective Services.

Mr. Davis and his wife have moved frequently, living in Las Vegas, Arizona and Colorado.

One neighbor in Colorado, Gary Sollee, said that Mr. Davis described himself as “former military,” adding that “he’d have to leave the country for work pretty often, and when he’s gone, he’s gone for an extended period of time.”

Mr. Davis’s sister, Ms. Wade, said she was awaiting her brother’s safe return.

“The only thing I’m going to say is I love my brother,” she said. “I love my brother, God knows, I love him. I’m just praying for him.”
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blackjack escribió:1-No creo que el Sr Raymond los matase por error.
2-Si aceptas este tipo de trabajo sabes a lo que te expones, cárcel o muerte. Ni más ni menos. El tener un gobierno que te apoye en mayor o menor medida es un extra, pero nunca puedes contar con ello. A algunos os sorprendería (otros no :wink: ) saber la cantidad de ciudadanos americanos que se están pudriendo en cárceles de Kagadastán o la República Popular de Chim-Póm Shakabó.
El caso de Raymond es particular, no la norma general.
1) El que le metiera cinco balas a cada uno y luego fotografiara sus cuerpos es una buena pista.
2) Amén, repetido hasta la náusea aquí.
3) El caso de Raymond Davis es extremadamente particular, no hay mucha gente currando en servicios similares a los de XPG y menos en sitios como Lahore.
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kilo009 escribió:-Además de BW y la CIA, podía haber equipos del JSOC en el mismo operativo. ¿Veremos algún día esto en nuestra zona de actuación? ¿En el Magreb? CNI - Protección Privada - y OE's trabajando conjuntamente.
Lo pusimos en el foro, hubo que hacer limpieza en el sistema de búsqueda, pero tanto en este tema como en otros del subforo PMCs hay bastante información sobre la relación BW-CIA-JSOC y los trabajos en Pakistán, además de que el JSOC tiene sede fija en Lahore desde 2006 al menos.

¿Lo veremos aquí? demasiado miedo al que dirán, aunque supongo que pasará como después de Irak, que a posteriori y tras alguna tragedia prime más el hacer las cosas bien que ver quien se lleva el mérito o ahorrar en el chocolate del loro. Por lo pronto el Centro ya ha contratado servicios de "consultoras" en más de una ocasión.
kilo009 escribió:-Hyperion Protective Services
Se supone que esta empresa la montó Davis como manera de ganarse la vida cuando estaba fuera de rotación, pero algo me dice que es la tapadera que tuvo que montar para justificar la pasta que ganaba y el medio de cobro que tenía con la CIA.
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