Pros y contras de las PMC´s

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No pasa nada, es que lo de llamarlos "contractors" y "un PSD" me pone enfermo... digamos que viene de lejos :twisted:

¿Hay muchos españoles trabajando de contratistas?
No, apenas un puñado. ¿Por qué? principalmente por desconocimiento del inglés (y los anglosajones dominan esta industria), falta de preparación/conocimientos/experiencia, mala consideración hacia los españoles entre los anglosajones (que, repito, dominan la industria), y un elevadísimo porcentaje de bocazas, frikis y "posers" varios.

Debe de haber una quincena de tios en España ofreciendo cursos tácticos, de PSD, que si escolta, que si cobrar a la gente por "meterles en una lista" y cosas así; todos dicen haber hecho el oro y el moro, ninguno ha puesto jamás una fotografía de ellos en Iraq o Afganistán (que se vea que son ellos y que se vea que son esos sitios) y mucho menos referencias de en que contratos o que empresas han trabajado. Una combinación de fantasmas y oportunidad de negocio... así está la cosa :?
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Un varios rapidito, en este caso SOC-SMG:

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Muy buenas fotos Loopster.

Siempre me ha sorprendido el buen material que utilizan , tanto en armamento , equipos y medios de los que disponen. Si tienen hasta comunicaciones via satelite , que envidia.....

¿que tipo de chaquetas son las de las fotos?

Gracias por toda esta informacion de primera , no hay mucha informacion realista en España sobre el tema.

Joer que pelotilla me estoy poniendo :roll:
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Creo que son de la marca TAD, las chaquetas digo.


Los materiales dependen de dos cosas, la empresa para la que trabajen, y quien les de el contrato. Mientras unas se dedican a rapiñar AKs con 30 años y chalecos antibalas hechos en Singapur, otros se gastan el 50% de lo asignado en contrato en tener a su gente con el mejor material que esté disponible. Igualmente no es lo mismo que el dinero te lo ponga el Departamento de Defensa para un Augmentation de sus equipos de OEs y con presupuestos asignados y decididos entre el JSOC y las cuatro PMCs que trabajan junto a los de OEs que el tener un contrato de Naciones Unidas para escoltar materiales de construcción.

También cuenta el que muchas empresas utilizan a las PMCs como T&E (test and evaluation) y que la gente que trabaja en las High Five dispone en ocasiones de unos medios que sencillamente... ¡no están ni en el mercado! Ya he visto por ahí desde equipos enteros con chalecos antibala de 4000$ o uniformes de combate de Crye en 2002.

Dejaos de peloteos y soltar pasta, que después de la R1 quiero la GSX-1000 :lol: :lol:
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MPRI y American Systems se encargaron de formar a los comandos georgianos que entraron en Osetia durante la primera jornada de ofensiva.

¿Alguien más se acuerda de los kninjas?
US military trained Georgian commandos
By Charles Clover in Moscow and Demetri Sevastopulo in Washington

Published: September 5 2008 18:49 | Last updated: September 5 2008 18:49
The US military provided combat training to 80 Georgian special forces commandos only months prior to Georgia’s army assault in South Ossetia in August.

The revelation, based on recruitment documents and interviews with US military trainers obtained by the Financial Times, could add fuel to accusations by Vlad­imir Putin, Russian prime minister, last month that the US had “orchestrated” the war in the Georgian enclave.

The training was provided by senior US soldiers and two military contractors. There is no evidence that the contractors or the Pentagon, which hired them, knew that the commandos they were training were likely be used in the assault on South Ossetia.

A US army spokesman said the goal of the programme was to train the commandos for duty in Afghanistan as part of Nato-led International Security Assist­ance Force. The programme, however, highlights the often unintended consequences of US “train and equip” programmes in foreign countries.

The contractors – MPRI and American Systems, both based in Virginia – recruited a 15-man team of former special forces soldiers to train the Georgians at the Vashlijvari special forces base on the outskirts of Tbilisi, part of a programme run by the US defence department.

MPRI was hired by the Pentagon in 1995 to train the Croatian military prior to their invasion of the ethnically-Serbian Krajina region, which led to the displacement of 200,000 refugees and was one of the worst incidents of ethnic cleansing in the Balkan wars. MPRI denies any wrongdoing.

US training of the Georgian army is a big flashpoint between Washington and Moscow. Mr Putin said on CNN on August 29: “It is not just that the American side could not restrain the Georgian leadership from this criminal act [of intervening in South Ossetia]. The American side in effect armed and trained the Georgian army.”

The first phase of the special forces training was held between January and April this year, concentrating on “basic special forces skills” said an American Systems employee interviewed by phone from the US army’s Fort Bragg.

The US military official familiar with the programme said the Pentagon hired the military contracting firms to help supplement its own trainers because of a lack of manpower.

The second 70-day phase was set to begin on August 11, a few days after war broke out in South Ossetia. The trainers arrived on August 3, four days before the conflict flared on August 7. “They would have only seen the inside of a hotel room,” quipped one former contractor. Neither MPRI nor American Systems would speak at length to the FT about the programme.

American Systems di­rected questions to the US army’s Security Assistance Training Management Organisation (Satmo) at Fort Bragg, part of the US Army’s Special Warfare Center School. Satmo sends trainers, mainly special forces but also contractors, to countries such as Yemen, Colombia and the Philippines. Satmo trainers generally work with forces involved in counter-insurgencies, counter-terrorism or civil wars. A Satmo spokesman declined to comment.

One US military official familiar with the programme said it emerged from a Georgian offer to the US in December 2006 to send commandos to Afghanistan to work alongside American special operations forces.

According to this person, the US told Georgia that the offer should be made through Nato, which welcomed the offer but informed Georgia that its forces would need additional training to meet the military alliance’s standards.

While the programme is not classified, there is a lack of transparency surrounding it, though US military officials said the lack of publicity was not part of an effort to keep the programme secret. Other US military training programmes in Georgia have their own websites and photo galleries.

A US European Command spokesman confirmed the existence of the programme only after reviewing an e-mail sent by MPRI recruiters that was obtained by the FT. According to the e-mail, which did not mention Nato operations, former US special operations forces would receive $2,000 ($1,150, €1,400) a week plus costs as trainers. “We can confirm the pro­gramme exists, but due to its nature and training ob­jectives we do not discuss specifics to ensure the integrity of the programme and force protection of the trainers and participants,” he said.

James Appathurai, Nato’s spokesman in Brussels, said: “Georgia has made an offer to provide forces to Isaf in the last two years. But until now these Georgian forces have not joined the Isaf mission.” An official at a senior Nato member state said it was understood that the forces had been trained by the US, but that the forces had not passed a certification process under which all potential members of the Isaf mission are vetted.
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Hola Loops,

La UE ha montado una comisión de investigación para aclarar cómo empezó el asalto sobre Osetia del Sur, quién disparó primero los días previos, cómo fue la operación georgiana y la respuesta rusa, etc.

Con toda probabilidad esta comisión genere un documento, puede que aparezcan estas SOF georgianas.

Un saludo,
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Pues MPRI tiene mucha experiencia en formar equipos de OEs en naciones aliadas de EEUU, y de forma bastante eficaz.

Noticia en el Washington Post sobre el boom de contratistas que está empezando para Afganistán:
Defense Contracts Foretell Military Buildup in Afghanistan
By Walter Pincus - Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, September 14, 2008


The Defense Department is seeking private contractors to carry out a variety of tasks -- such as clearing land mines, building detention facilities and providing fuel -- to assist U.S. forces in Afghanistan, which are set to grow following President Bush's announcement last week that he will expand military operations there.

This month, the Pentagon issued a proposal seeking civilian contractors to help clear land mines in Afghanistan, including the outer areas of Bagram air base, where new construction is underway. A $25 million contract to build about 14 miles of roads inside the Bagram complex will be awarded later this month. The roads are to "ease traffic flow" and "provide diversions for construction traffic" on the expanding base, according to the published solicitation.

Last week, the Defense Department put out a contract proposal seeking firms that could supply airborne surveillance in Afghanistan with the capability of Constant Hawk, a system now deployed in Iraq. From a single-engine aircraft, Constant Hawk's sensors record and archive data from an area over time in order to capture events such as exploding roadside bombs. Civilian analysts are also being sought to review the recorded incidents and identify perpetrators.

"The military is stretched very thin, and to keep low the deployments numbers, there is a tendency to go to contractors who have played a huge part in Iraq," said Rep. David E. Price (D-N.C.), who as a member of the House Appropriations Committee has sponsored legislation limiting contracts in the intelligence field.

Bush announced on Tuesday that over the new few months, he will send nearly 5,000 additional troops to Afghanistan, which he characterized as an increasingly important front in the battle against extremism. Recent Pentagon contracts provide a picture of what the expanded U.S. presence may be called upon to accomplish in that country.

Some contractors are needed because the military lacks particular equipment or personnel. On Monday, U.S. Central Command said it would be advertising for a contractor who could provide 22 medium- and heavy-lift helicopters to transport passengers and cargo in Afghanistan and Iraq. In his Wednesday appearance before the House Armed Services Committee, Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in discussing Afghanistan, "Helicopters is the biggest shortfall we have, and it is very clearly supportive of the [intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance] effort in addition to the attack effort, as well."

Another Army contract, posted this month, calls for a firm to process, clean, repair and provide secure storage for 4,600 incoming vehicles ticketed for the Afghan National Police. The current contractor is storing 1,200 vehicles. But a flood of new ones, expected over the next year, will arrive at a rate of 300 or more a month, including 3,600 light tactical vehicles, 600 Humvees and 100 Humvee ambulances, according to the notice.

Some larger contracts give an indication of how long the U.S. military might intend to remain in Afghanistan. For example, on Aug. 1, the Army Corps of Engineers announced that Prime Projects International, a firm based in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, had won a $50 million contract to design and build a prison complex at Bagram to hold 1,000 high- and low-risk detainees. The complex is not expected to be completed before October 2009.

Bagram has become a central location for holding detainees picked up in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Similar to its activities in Iraq, the U.S. military has begun hiring intelligence contractors, many with military experience, to screen those captured to determine whether they should be held as enemy combatants. This month, the military advertised for an "Islamic religious specialist" to support "counterinsurgency and information operations" in the Bagram prison.

That person's job would be to "deliver Islamic religious services for enemy combatants detained" with the facility and also "act as a linguist/interpreter in emergency situations," according to the statement of work attached to the contract solicitation.
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Avanzamos en la autonomía de las PMC, Dyncorp constituirá la totalidad de una QRF del Department of State para la destrucción de arsenales:
U.S. Department of State Quick Reaction Force

The Office of Weapons Removal and Abatement in the U.S. Department of State’s Bureau of Political-Military Affairs has awarded a contract to DynCorp International for the formation of a humanitarian Quick Reaction Force (QRF) to respond globally to urgent and emergent humanitarian operations that require the removal or mitigation of explosive hazards to protect civilian populations.

The formation of this new QRF reflects the continued U.S. commitment to post-conflict or post catastrophic explosive weapons clearance and destruction programs. It will deal with all explosive remnants of war, whether they are surplus, abandoned, hazardous, or residual conventional weapons, rather than one specific type of weapon or munitions. This includes small arms and light weapons (SA/LW), unexploded ordnance, cluster munitions, landmines, man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS), and other types of conventional weapons. The QRF will have a stand-alone capability and if the situation warrants will complement and multiply ongoing efforts on the ground. It will work in concert with foreign governments and U.S. Embassies around the world and should be available for deployment within the next several weeks.

This new QRF is an enhanced version of the earlier Department of State Quick Reaction Demining Force (QRDF) created in 2000 that focused exclusively on humanitarian mine action and conducted successful operations in Mozambique, Sri Lanka, Sudan, and Iraq.

The Office of Weapons Removal and Abatement manages humanitarian mine action programs (clearance of landmines and explosive remnants of war, survivors assistance, mine risk education), and conventional weapons destruction programs worldwide. To learn more visit http://www.state.gov/t/pm/wra.
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