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Hola compañeros ahora pongo este tema para darnos cuenta de los requisitos y aptitudes que debe de tener uno para ingresar a la CIA.

Requisitos para la CIA :)

Uno de lo los puntos principales es ser ciudadano Estadounidense.
otros puntos que se deben de tomar en cuenta como consejos y advertencias.

http://es.wikihow.com/llegar-a-ser-un-agente-de-la-CIA

Las ofertas laborales son sobre :
Analistas
Servicios clandestinos
MAestros Nativos de Idiomas
Ingenieros
Cientificos
Servicios de Soporte

Todas estas con sus diviciones dentro de la CIA

En cada carrera dentro de la CIA hay disiplinas que deben de llevarse de la mano con la misma que aqui les pongo.

https://www.cia.gov/careers/jobs/chart-your-career.html

Sobre las Actitudes en general de todas las carreras son:
Experiencia militar.

Asuntos internacionales y sólidos y habilidades de comunicación interpersonal.

Dominio de idiomas extranjeros.

Otros títulos de interés son los negocios internacionales, las finanzas o las relaciones, la economía, la ciencia o la física nuclear, biológica o químico de ingeniería. Competitivo de los candidatos también poseen impecable integridad personal y la capacidad de manejar la ambigüedad y de asumir riesgos calculados.

Estar en condiciones de ocuparse de rápida evolución, las situaciones ambiguas y no estructuradas. Esto requiere salud física y psicológica, la energía, la intuición y el "sentido de la calle"

Exigentes,tener responsabilidades, es esencial que sean física y psicológicamente sanos, enérgico, y capaz de hacer frente al estrés.

Tener una gran capacidad de razonamiento analítico y de la conceptualización, pero no suelen estar interesados en ideas para su propio bien.

Buena perspectiva de carácter, la motivación y el potencial de otras personas; flexibilidad, un sentido de la perspectiva y el humor

Y los puestos mas interesantes a mi parecer son:

Servicio Clandestino
La última carrera internacional
El Servicio Clandestino de la CIA es la primera línea de la fuente de información clandestina crítica internacional sobre la evolución, desde el terrorismo y las armas de destrucción en masa a cuestiones militares y políticas. La misión requiere de funcionarios del servicio clandestino de vivir y trabajar en el extranjero, lo que hace un verdadero compromiso con la Agencia. Esto es algo más que un puesto de trabajo - es una forma de vida que desafía la más profunda de los recursos personales de inteligencia, la autonomía y la responsabilidad.


Funciones analíticas
Ha sido dicho que la cosa más importante con los analistas de la CIA sabe - ni siquiera con la totalidad de su información de alto secreto - es que su trabajo tiene un profundo impacto. Los analistas que trabajan en la Dirección de Inteligencia (DI) son algunas de las personas más brillantes en el país, pero lo que realmente hace que sus contribuciones pendientes de pago es de la integridad y la objetividad que aportan a la misma. Lo hacen no para ganar reconocimiento público o elogios, pero debido a que el país y el Presidente necesita expertos que se cuentan como es. De la Guerra Fría a la guerra contra el terrorismo, la energía y el compromiso oficial de la DI ha sido decisiva para la seguridad de nuestra nación.

Es solo parte de la informacion espero encontrar mas para darla a conocer aqui para lo que les interese .
cabe mencionar que hay mas informacion especifica en la pagina de la misma CIA para detalles.

https://www.cia.gov/

y escriban si tiene mas informacion, experiencias, llibros, temas relacionados.

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Gracias, La Moderación
KS

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The Spymaster, Can Mike McConnell fix America's intelligence community?, Lawrence Wright

Fuente: The New Yorker
Last May, the director of National Intelligence, a soft-spoken South Carolinian named Mike McConnell, learned that three U.S. soldiers had been captured by Sunni insurgents in central Iraq. As a search team of six thousand American and Iraqi forces combed through Babil Province, analysts at the National Security Agency, in Fort Meade, Maryland, began examining communications traffic in Iraq, hoping to pick up conversations among the soldiers' captors...

Obtenido desde Athena Intelligence

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008 ... table=true

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Counter-Intelligence Field Activity

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Parece que una de las pequeñas agencias de inteligencia surgidas dentro de las FAS americanas durante la era Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz está echando el cierre. El Counter-Intelligence Field Activity (CIFA) estaba organizada a base de un 90% de contratistas y su tarea parece que se centraba en la creación de bases de datos sobre actividades de financiación y organización terrorista (o de otros asuntos de interés) dentro de EEUU.

Los comentarios no tienen desperdicio:

http://www.thespywhobilledme.com/the_spy_who_billed_me/2008/04/three-claps-for.html
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Re: Relato de un aspirante a la CIA

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KS escribió:So you want to be a spy? And you're sure the place to go is the CIA!

The CIA is interested in hearing from you. It interviews thousands of Americans for jobs as spies, intelligence analysts and technical specialists every year. But because of its classified mission, hiring methods are unusual and Kafka-esque, taking at least a year to complete and bound in smothering bureaucratic process, comic ineptitude and secrecy.

Although the number of people employed by the CIA is classified, it regularly recruits on college campuses and through the job listings in major metropolitan newspapers. A recent series of advertisements aimed at minorities in magazines like Ebony drew spectacular media attention, but the typical CIA ad is bland and unassuming, easily blending in with countless other corporate calls for highly-trained, college- educated Americans.

A year ago, one such ad ran in The Philadelphia Inquirer. Candidates were encouraged to send resumes for consideration to a post office box drop in Pittsburgh, one of the agency's regional personnel clearinghouses. Candidates would be required to undergo a rigorous physical examination and polygraph test, the ad warned ominously.

I forwarded my resume to the CIA mail drop, listing my qualifications as a scientist and journalist with the reasoning that these talents would be useful in analysis.

Apparently, the CIA's personnel staff agreed. They got back to me in about a month and in so doing, began a unique series of communications.

Candidates, you see, are not contacted directly by the CIA. Instead they are delivered mail that requests them to contact an agency worker by telephone within a certain time frame. The contacts are often anonymous. For example, prospects whose last names began with "S" were asked to phone "Bobbi - Program Officer" at the CIA's Stafford Building in Tyson's Corner Center, VA.

The initial interview with the CIA usually involves a type of cattle call. About a year ago, 30 of us met in a room at The Valley Forge Convention Center. There we underwent preliminary screening from a CIA team led by Pittsburgh-based representative. The team included workers from the agency's directorates of intelligence, operations and science and technology, including one agency employee who looked over my resume, saw that I worked at a newspaper and added that he had come to the agency as a newsman, too.

It was the job of this spy and his colleagues to weed out potential crazies and issue to the remainder the agency's personnel Holy Grail, the 30-page Personal History Statement (PHS).

The PHS is an inventory that scrutinizes all aspects of the job candidate's professional and private life. It becomes the basic curriculum vitae used during hiring and the template for the CIA's security team during its investigation of potential agents.

"Don't leave anything blank," warned one of the spies balefully at the convention center. "I didn't think anyone would really sit down and go over the whole thing when I started, but believe me, they do."

The PHS requires the spy-in-waiting to designate references in a number of categories, including family members, professional acquaintances and personal (not family) acquaintances who have lived in close proximity to the candidate for a year or two.

"This is so the agency can call up your neighbors and ask them if there's loud music and blue smoke coming out of your front door on the weekends," one of the CIA handlers cracked.

The candidate is asked to document any record of criminal activity including theft, traffic violations, sexual deviance and perversion, unlawful drug use or undue publicity surrounding a divorce or civil suit. There is a battery of medical inquiries probing the candidate's injuries and hospital visits, mental stability, prescription and non-prescription drug use, gastro- intestinal health and nocturnal micturition frequency. (The last seemed aimed at uncovering whether the candidate had an enlarged prostate or was a chronic bedwetter.)

The candidate is warned that the veracity of his statement is liable to be tested by polygraph. Accompanying submission of this dossier to the CIA are any collegiate transcripts and a long writing sample dealing with any topic of interest to intelligence workers. For example, writing about home grown pilot plants designed for the production of biological warfare agents in Third World countries is appropriate if you're applying for a job as an analyst.

All candidates were warned not to inform anyone except close family members of their CIA screening. The CIA encouraged the use of a cover like "the government" or "Department of Defense" when notifying those who needed to be designated as references.

A few months after submission of the personal statement and transcripts, the candidate is likely to get a phone call from CIA security who identifies himself only as a member of "the Agency."

His job is to verify and embellish some of the information included in the PHS, specifically those sections dealing with criminal activity and homosexuality.

In my case, the agent was particularly interested in a reference to recreational marijuana use in college.

"How many cigarettes would you say you smoked?" he asked.

Satisfied with the answer, the agent continued by inquiring about drinking.

"The Agency's position in these matters is one of abstention enforced by testing," he said. Sure, bro. --Crypt News. That concluded the interrogation.

"You have a nice day," said the spy before hanging up.

Most of this preliminary screening is in response to much publicized problems the CIA has had in the past with the penetration by the criminal or mentally ill. James Jesus Angleton, the feared head of the CIA's counterintelligence wing and one of the most powerful men in the agency during the height of The Cold War, left his office in disgrace, having acquired a reputation, documented by journalists Thomas Mangold and Seymour Hersh, as a paranoid alcoholic and pathological liar.

If the prospective employee's personal statement and transcripts survive the initial evaluation, he or she is given a series of aptitude and psychological tests.

Those in eastern Pennsylvania were again contacted and issued a ticket/summons for the tests, which were administered one summer Saturday morning in the physics building at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia.

The testing at Penn, an all-day affair, included a series of vocabulary, simple math, reading comprehension and abstract thought multiple-choice quizzes, similar to a college aptitude test.

Also included was the California Psychological Inventory, devised by Dr. Harrison Gough, psychologist. Our copy, which had a copyright date of 1956, asked for true/false responses to a number of statements, including:

"I have wound up in trouble because of my involvement in unseemly sexual activities."

"In high school I was often sent to the principal's office for 'cutting up.'"

"I sweat in even the coolest weather."

"I believe it is every citizen's duty, as part of the community, to keep his sidewalk and lawn neat and clean."

"I must admit, I think people are fools who don't think the American way is the best there is."

"I often think people are watching me."

"I like tall women."

"I must admit, I don't mind being the 'cut-up' at the office party."

One can only wonder what the two women who took the psychological inventory that Saturday answered to the question about liking tall women.

It seemed curious that the agency was using a test from 1956 -- when presumably very few women applied for jobs in intelligence and when being a "cut-up" in high school was one of the worst things you could be accused of - to screen young professionals in 1991.

Two other tests included a work environment survey and a current world events test, both tailored for the CIA.

For example, the work environment survey asked whether the candidates would accept a job in a foreign culture or where conditions of extreme physical hazard (presumably a war zone), unpalatable food, no sanitation or debilitating disease prevail. It also focused on whether candidates would be willing to work anonymously and without recognition for long periods of time for people they find personally repugnant.

The hardest test was the current world events quiz. It presumed a comprehensive knowledge of world politics and personalities that might only be gained from religious study of The Washington Post or a background in international relations. Actually, I thought I did rather well on it.

After the testing, a couple more months passed.

Candidates were then informed by mail whether they had been bound over for interview at CIA headquarters in McLean, VA.

During this 9-month long period, no one from the agency had spoken to me for more than five minutes.

Finally, another letter arrived. It included an appointment date with "Agency Officials" interested in discussing possible employment.

The interview was set for the week after Thanksgiving in the Directorate of Intelligence's Office of East Asian Analysis. "Ellie" was my contact. A room was reserved for the night before at The Days Inn in Vienna, VA.

It was a 15-minute drive to the CIA the next morning. The unmarked compound is not far from Langley High School. You can tell you are there by the barricades of concrete and obstacle-wire surrounding the wooded campus.

The entrance block-house guard was supposed to check my photo driver's license, but he handed it back and waved me through without taking a look.

The Directorate of Intelligence is a modern looking edifice of cement and green glass. At the entrance were a score of smokers bearing the same furtive, hounded look seen at other corporations where smoking within the building has been banned.

Just inside was a marble hallway containing a likeness of William Casey.

Getting to the Office of East Asian Analysis entails a check-in at reception, where I presented my papers. After a few minutes, "Ellie," a middle-aged woman showed up to escort me.

I was issued a green piece of paper and a pass card used to get through an electronic Pinkerton security turnstile. A security man gave my briefcase the once-over. Overhead was a sign stating that passage beyond the portal conferred agreement to a search of your person, your belongings and your car at any time.

The agency has been sensitive to accusations that it's possible to walk out of the building with highly classified materials ever since 1978, when William Kampiles walked off CIA grounds with technical manuals for the super-secret National Reconnaissance Office's KH-11 spy satellite. Kampiles, a junior clerk, was sentenced to 40 years in jail for selling the manual to the Soviets. During the same period, 16 other KH-11 manuals disappeared and were never traced.

While I was coming in, many were coming out. No bags were checked. Later, when I left, no one asked about my briefcase.

Upstairs in the Office of East Asian Analysis, National Geographic-like photos of China adorned the walls. Documents marked "SECRET" littered the desks.

Maddie, a personnel administrator, was holding court.

In her office, I asked her if the recession had affected hiring. It had, she said. "I don't like the word 'down-sizing'," she said with a glassy smile. "We call it 'right-sizing.'"

Maddie said she couldn't say whether the agency's "right- sizing" involves cuts in 60 percent of prospective hires, as had been recently reported in national newspapers. But then she changed her mind and commented, "That's a little high."

This has created problems for the agency, she said. Since attrition isn't removing veterans at the expected rate, it's been difficult to bring in new people she added. Complicating matters is the polygraph and security check. "Eighty to 90 percent of the people to which the agency makes an offer fail it."

As for where I fit into things, interest was from the China Division: Industry & Technology branch of the office.

"The section head's not here today," said Maddie. "But Stan will speak with you."

Stan turned out to be an airy, blond-haired analyst with a master's degree in international relations from American University. (Today, Stan works at a company that specializes in business intelligence. When its partners aren't out on the golf links they will -- essentially -- spy on your corporate competitors and provide research assessments or teach your firm how to do corporate counterintelligence.)

"What did you say your name was?" he asked as we walked down the hall to his boss's empty office.

Stan didn't have my resume, my PHS or any information on my scientific background, the reason I was being interviewed, so he didn't ask any questions, preferring instead to talk about himself.

How many scientists are currently working in the office, I finally asked.

"None," said Stan. "That's why we're trying to look at some."

The agency, Stan said, made up for this lack by sending analysts to seminars on topics the various departments may have to deal with, such as ballistic missile technology. Stan said he was glad he had finally learned what an accelerometer was and how integral design is to ballistic missile development.

I asked Stan about the polygraph screening and nature of the psychological testing.

He laughed nervously but said, "Everybody has to go through it and it's not any fun. But security believes very strongly in it and the agency works hard to get candidates through the lie-detector. We allow them to take it three times."

At the end of the interview, Maddie asked me to take some "stuff" over to the Stafford Building for her when I went there to collect travel expenses. A moment later she thought better of it, but supplied me with directions anyway.

Outside the Stafford Building later in the day were more harried smokers. Inside I asked for gas money ($20) and mileage. A CIA worker insisted that this be compared against the price of the lowest airline ticket from Philadelphia. I argued that this was ridiculous, to no avail.

As predicted, a telephone call to a CIA airline-ticket specialist came up with a figure far in excess of the gas money. The agent then gave me a little more than $200 of the taxpayer's money, a generous per diem, and mileage allowance. The hotel room had been paid in advance.

A call to Maddie's office a few days later elicited the information that there were no job openings and no hiring plans.

When I asked why, in that case, the testing and interviewing, no one had an answer except to say "the agency has to plan for every contingency."


[This particular story appeared in The Morning Call newspaper in Allentown, PA, in 1992. You'll see it took a lot of patience to complete and was done while I was in the first year of publication of Crypt Newsletter.]

http://www.soci.niu.edu/~crypt/other/cia.htm
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La Comunidad de Inteligencia de EEUU está preocupada por el posible uso de IED's en territorio norteamericano, creen que es una de las amenazas más probables a la que se enfrentan.

Para luchar contra esa amenaza están coordinando mejor las agencias estatales y locales, aumentando la vigilancia pública y mejorando el sistema de prevención, detección, protección y capacidades contra IED's a nivel nacional.
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Textos interesantes sobre el Foreing Intelligence Surveillance Act:

-FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SURVEILLANCE 01/02/2006

-The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act: An Overview of the Statutory Framework and Recent Judicial Decisions

-[url=http://www.fletc.gov/training/programs/legal-division/downloads-articles-and-faqs/articles/foreign-intelligence-surveillance-act.html]Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA): An Overview
March, 2007. James G. McAdams, III Senior Legal Instructor Legal Division. Federal Law Enforcement Training Center[/url]
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Re: Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)

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De la Agencia EFE citando al Washington Post, claro es que no debe ser fácil mantener a tantas esposas:

La CIA obtiene la colaboración de líderes tribales afganos a cambio de Viagra

La Agencia Central de Inteligencia (CIA) emplea una variedad de incentivos para obtener la colaboración de jefes tribales afganos en la lucha contra los talibanes, incluida la distribución de píldoras de Viagra, que actúan contra la disfunción eréctil, según informó el diario 'The Washington Post'.

El diario señaló que funcionarios de los servicios de inteligencia, a los que no identifica, explicaron que los agentes de la CIA "han usado una variedad de servicios personales para ganarse el favor de los caciques y caudillos guerreros cuyas lealtades cambian notoriamente".

Un singular obsequio

El artículo describe el caso de "un cacique afgano que parecía mucho más viejo que sus 60 años, cuyo rostro barbudo mostraba los surcos de un hombre cargado de obligaciones como patriarca tribal y esposo de cuatro mujeres más jóvenes".

"Su visitante, un agente de la CIA, vio una oportunidad y buscó en su mochila un pequeño obsequio", añadió el artículo.

"Cuatro píldoras azules. Viagra".

-Tome una de estas. Le encantará - dijo el agente al jefe tribal según el diario.

Información a cambio de pastillas

"El agente que describió el encuentro regresó cuatro días más tarde y tuvo una recepción entusiasta", continuó. "El cacique, sonriente, ofreció abundante información sobre los movimientos y rutas de abastecimiento de los Talibanes, y pidió más píldoras".

Entre otros regalos que distribuye la CIA a cambio de información se cuentan, indicó 'The Washington Post', cuchillos de bolsillo, medicamentos, instrumentos quirúrgicos, juguetes y útiles escolares, extracciones de muelas y dientes, visas para viajes y "ocasionalmente realces farmacéuticos para patriarcas".
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Re: Inteligencia Norteamericana

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Obama renueva la Direccion Nacional de Inteligencia y la Direccion de la CIA, de EL MUNDO, con base en REUTERS:

Obama coloca al frente de la CIA a Leon Panetta, ex jefe de gabinete de Clinton

Leon Panetta se dirige a un hotel de Washington en diciembre de 2006.

MADRID | WASHINGTON.- Barack Obama ha elegido a Leon Panetta, ex jefe de gabinete de Bill Clinton, para tomar el relevo del general Michael Hayden como próximo director de la Agencia Central de Inteligencia (CIA).

Los medios estadounidenses han confirmado también otro nombre que se rumoreaba desde hace semanas, el del almirante retirado Dennis Blair como futuro director nacional de Inteligencia.

Más allá de sus funciones en la Casa Blanca entre 1994 y 1997, Panetta cuenta con un bagaje relativamente escaso en asuntos de seguridad nacional.

Fue miembro del Grupo de Estudio sobre Irak, una comisión bipardidista a la que se encargó la misión de poner fin a la guerra. Sus recomendaciones para una retirada gradual de las tropas fueron esencialmente ignoradas por George W. Bush, que optó en cambio por incrementar la presencia militar en el país árabe.

Antes de incorporarse a la Administración Clinton, Panetta ocupó un escaño en la Cámara de Representantes entre 1977 y 1993. Allí se dedicó sobre todo a cuestiones de presupuestos, nutrición y medio ambiente.
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El FBI alerta que los terroristas trabajan en un 11S virtual. La agencia situa los ciberataques como la tercera amenaza para Estados Unidos.

http://www.levante-emv.com/secciones/no ... an-virtual

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Han pillado, en acciones "poco decorosas", al Director de la Antena en Argel.

SCANDALE DU CHEF D’ANTENNE DE LA CIA À ALGER

Les interrogations de Zerhouni


01 Février 2009




Le ministre relève qu’aucune des victimes n’a contacté les autorités algériennes et «personne n’a déposé plainte» dans ce sens.

Le ministre de l’Intérieur et des Collectivités locales, Yazid Noureddine Zerhouni, réagit à l’affaire du chef de la CIA qui a été accusé du viol de deux femmes algériennes en Algérie.
Le ministre énumère ces suggestions. «Le premier point: il s’agit d’un diplomate», a déclaré à la presse M.Zerhouni, hier, en marge de la séance de clôture des travaux des deux chambres du Parlement. Il laisse entendre que le diplomate est couvert par les conventions diplomatiques.
Le ministre relève comme deuxième point le silence des victimes. «Personne n’a déposé plainte» dans ce sens, a enchaîné le ministre, intrigué: «Est-ce qu’il s’agit là de quelqu’un qui aurait une maladie sexuelle?» Et de s’interroger encore: «S’agit-il de quelqu’un qui a d’autres idées, qui cherche à faire du chantage à des fins non déterminées?»
Entre l’une et l’autre hypothèse, le ministre fait la part des choses. «Selon l’un ou l’autre des cas, la gestion du dossier sera différente», a commenté encore M.Zerhouni. Ainsi, Alger attend les résultats de l’enquête ouverte par Washington pour «gérer l’affaire».
Au moment où nous mettons sous presse, aucune réaction officielle d’Alger n’a été rendue publique. La justice américaine a ouvert une enquête sur cette affaire. Comme première réaction, Washington a rappelé le chef de la CIA à Alger.
Le gouvernement américain a pris, semble-t-il, très au sérieux, cette affaire, notamment après la découverte, dans sa résidence à Alger, de plus de douze cassettes vidéo montrant l’agent lors d’ébats amoureux avec d’autres femmes.
A rappeler que ce plus haut responsable de la CIA en poste à Alger, Andrew Warren, 41 ans, est accusé par deux femmes algériennes d’avoir mis des somnifères dans leurs boissons avant de les agresser sexuellement dans la résidence que le gouvernement américain louait pour lui à Alger. La première femme, une ressortissante algérienne qui est également titulaire d’un passeport allemand, a déclaré qu’elle a été agressée par Warren après l’avoir rencontré lors d’une fête à son domicile. Elle dit que Warren lui a offert un verre d’alcool.
Après l’avoir consommé, elle est tombée malade et a eu des symptômes étranges «rien à voir avec les effets physiologiques de l’alcool», dit-elle. Et d’affirmer qu’elle s’est réveillée dans un lit, complètement nue, sans mémoire de ce qui s’était passé.
La deuxième femme, mariée, ressortissante algérienne résidant en Espagne, a déclaré à des fonctionnaires de l’ambassade, qu’elle est devenue malade après avoir consommé deux boissons à la résidence de Warren, le 17 février 2008. Elle affirme qu’elle s’est réveillée dans la maison de Warren mais sans pouvoir se rappeler de ce qui s’y est déroulé. Ce n’est pas tout.
Le chef de l’antenne de la CIA à Alger aurait utilisé les femmes à des fins d’espionnage.
Ce même agent aurait été vu faire la prière du vendredi dans quelques mosquées d’Alger, a rapporté la presse nationale dans les différentes éditions d’hier. Car, M.Warren maîtrise parfaitement la langue arabe et apparaissait comme étant «un musulman pratiquant», après avoir fait des passages importants en Afghanistan et en Egypte.

Source: L'Expression.

Los argelinos, parece, que no están por la labor de crear un gran escándalo alrededor de éste tema. Hay demasiados intereses en juego.
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